Comments on: Real world forms http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/ For more than a decade Marc has been a passionate advocate of placing the customer at the heart of business, working with clients in finance, retail, government and entertainment sectors, helping them craft compelling cross channel customer experiences. Marc champions lean and agile approaches for making customer driven innovation happen. He brings design thinking and creativity to clients, engaging across the organisation with a focus on delivery as well as ideas. He is currently writing a book on Agile Experience Design to be published this Autumn. Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:33:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Behaviour, intentions, interactions and corner cases | dancingmango http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-104999 Behaviour, intentions, interactions and corner cases | dancingmango Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:59:28 +0000 http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/#comment-104999 [...] are introducing web 2.0 interactivity to introduce more fuzzy searching to find what you want. Forms can be more like their real-world brethren.  Rather than the “command and control” approach of imperative programming that drives a [...] [...] are introducing web 2.0 interactivity to introduce more fuzzy searching to find what you want. Forms can be more like their real-world brethren.  Rather than the “command and control” approach of imperative programming that drives a [...]

]]> By: Sarah Taraporewalla’s Technical Ramblings » Picking the right domain to model http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-89537 Sarah Taraporewalla’s Technical Ramblings » Picking the right domain to model Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:21:57 +0000 http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/#comment-89537 [...] No Session State just persistent documents) and has a similar usability concept as described in Marc McNeill’s blog. Initially our model had discreet objects, and their complex relationship between them. We soon [...] [...] No Session State just persistent documents) and has a similar usability concept as described in Marc McNeill’s blog. Initially our model had discreet objects, and their complex relationship between them. We soon [...]

]]> By: BOS http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-65857 BOS Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:47:43 +0000 http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/#comment-65857 TurboTax uses this exact model. Their approach is very intuitive, supports a non-linear approach to entering personal, income, deduction and account information and it is wildly successful. TurboTax uses this exact model. Their approach is very intuitive, supports a non-linear approach to entering personal, income, deduction and account information and it is wildly successful.

]]> By: JoshG http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-65146 JoshG Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:30:41 +0000 http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/#comment-65146 G'day Marc, We come across this desire all the time - it should be a lot less effort but seems to be more than anyone likes. Are you using a framework for this, like RIFE or Spring WebFlow? G’day Marc,

We come across this desire all the time – it should be a lot less effort but seems to be more than anyone likes.

Are you using a framework for this, like RIFE or Spring WebFlow?

]]> By: Christian http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-64887 Christian Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:41:10 +0000 http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/#comment-64887 Hi there Marc, Your take on web forms is refreshing to me on many levels. The only point I'm not too sure about is when a user's identity in the system is created. I think it should be done up front but minimally - something like a username and password but that's about it. Now that I'm thinking about it though, I don't think I'd have the user fill out the entire form in one shot. S/he should only be asked to provide whatever info. is required to continue the current flow if you know what I mean. The direct debit may only be filled in at such a time that a client would like to setup direct deposit for wages as an example. Maybe the paradigm you borrow from the real world isn't all that great either. I think webforms could do one better. Thanks for your thoughts. Hi there Marc,

Your take on web forms is refreshing to me on many levels. The only point I’m not too sure about is when a user’s identity in the system is created. I think it should be done up front but minimally – something like a username and password but that’s about it.

Now that I’m thinking about it though, I don’t think I’d have the user fill out the entire form in one shot. S/he should only be asked to provide whatever info. is required to continue the current flow if you know what I mean. The direct debit may only be filled in at such a time that a client would like to setup direct deposit for wages as an example.

Maybe the paradigm you borrow from the real world isn’t all that great either. I think webforms could do one better.

Thanks for your thoughts.

]]> By: Peter Gillard-Moss http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-64884 Peter Gillard-Moss Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:20:35 +0000 http://www.dancingmango.com/blog/2008/02/12/real-world-forms/#comment-64884 We did this in another TW project see Dan Bodart's blog http://dan.bodar.com/2007/10/06/3/ (under heading No Session State just persistent documents). He has some very strong ideas on the above. It does work: it also has the added bonus that when a user comes back after a period of time greater than the session expiry, once logged back on they still preserve their form. We did this in another TW project see Dan Bodart’s blog http://dan.bodar.com/2007/10/06/3/ (under heading No Session State just persistent documents). He has some very strong ideas on the above.

It does work: it also has the added bonus that when a user comes back after a period of time greater than the session expiry, once logged back on they still preserve their form.

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